Gold Price Manipulation Goes Mainstream On German TV

Gold Price Manipulation Goes Mainstream On German TV

Good evening and welcome to the bussiness magazine, Makro. The purchase of gold, for many people, represents a safe reserve for bad times. No wonder that, at the height of the financial crisis, savers were queuing up at gold dealers. Throughout history, gold has served as a promise of reliability and stability. But today there are considerable doubts as to whether that promise remains valid, because an examination of gold prices reveals machinations fit for a financial thriller. London, the most important gold market in the world. Whether the price of gold rises or falls is determined here. Twice a day, a handful of bankers confer on the phone to fix the daily price of the precious metal. Thus arises the most important reference value for physical gold, used by businesses ranging from jewellers to gold mines. There is no public oversight for the “Fixing”. Apparently, this lack of restraint has led to serious manipulations of the gold price, as pointed out by a current investigation which has detected strange price movements spanning a number of years. Rosa Abrantes-Metz: The setting of the gold fixing is, in my view, problematic. It opens the door for abuse and manipulation. There is absolutely no transparency in the arrangements made during the private phone conversations of this small group of participants as they decide what the price of gold should be. Experts have long complained that this system is particularly susceptible to manipulation. Only five banks participate in the London gold fix, thus far including the Deutsche Bank. In the more extreme futures markets, where bets are made on gold price developments in future months, the quantities that exchange hands are of quite different magnitudes. Folker Hellmeyer: We have a situation whereby this market by three essential players in the USA, from three banks, is being dominated. These banks have a market share in the order of 80 percent. In other words, we are talking about an almost monopolistic structure which of course also provides the power to manipulate the market. And which power is apparently being abundantly used. The futures market, intended to provide predictability and stability for future prices, is controlled by the following three banks: HSBC, Citibank, and JP Morgan. Their tool: paper gold securities. Thorsten Schulte: It is possible to simply sell scraps of paper, thereby creating fear, especially fear among those who possess gold in its physical form, and who may then arrange to sell their metal, eventually resulting in such a a wave of fear … The gold price has been attacked in this fashion time and again, often with massive price declines within a matter of a few minutes. Yet, there is quite a bit more to the story. Dimitri Speck: Gold is the opponent of debt based moneys and in particular the US dollar. Therefore, the US Federal Reserve has an interest in a weak gold price, and the US government protects the manipulation of the gold price by the private banks. For years, the US Federal Reserve has served as the lender of last resort. Gold must be weak if a loss of confidence in the US dollar is to be averted. It has been difficult to prove that this is a rigged game with a stacked deck, but if the gold market manipulations are indeed encouraged in addition to being condoned, that would explain why oversight bodies have thus far, turned a blind eye to it, despite years of massive conspicuous activities in the futures markets, as with the gold fixing in London. The Deutsche Bank incidentally intends to withdraw from the gold fix. As of now, no other bank has expressed an interest in filling that spot. Too many banks are scared to damage their good reputation in London. Gold is a speculation commodity with a high symbolic power. Its price is therefore strongly influenced by many fears and hopes. Here are a few facts about that from our Makroskop. 31.1 grams, that’s the weight of one ounce of refined gold. The precious metal is regarded foremost as protection in times of crisis. During the financial and economic crisis gold climbed rapidly. Currently gold trades for about USD $1300 per ounce. Yet the more hopes grow for an end to the international economic slowdown, the more the price of gold declines. The US government continues to hold the largest governmental gold reserves at 261.6 million ounces, over 8100 metric tonnes. The US is followed by Germany, Italy, France,
and China. But the largest demand comes from the Middle Kingdom. From gold coins to gold bars, the Chinese are accumulating large quantities. In 2013 the Chinese acquired 1065.8 tonnes, moving for the first time ahead of the Indians, who purchased 974.8 tonnes in 2013. Jewellery accounts for the highest portion of the demand. In China, jewellery sales since 2004 have tripled. They represent about 30 percent of worldwide demand. About 400 tonnes was purchased by businesses. In particular China’s electronic manufacturers need industrial gold for production. Meanwhile China has risen, in the mining sector, from being a small player to become the number one gold producing country. In the past tens years, Chinese gold production went from from 217 to 437 tonnes, it more than doubled. Today, the course of the gold market is being set by China. What are the worldwide consequences of this? I will talk about this with the chief editor of the Frankfurter Börsenbrief. A very good evening to you, Mr. Bernhard Klinzing. These days the flow of gold seems to be
from the west to the east, as we have just seen. There are considerably more buyers in Asia
than in the developed western countries. What do you attribute this to? The reason is that India and China,
which together make up half the gold market, do not have state provided elder care,
it’s a different situation there. Then there is of course the fear of inflation. “The Chinese are the Germans of Asia”, it is said, and so they sit on gold. We have seen that the price of gold is heavily manipulated. These manipulators are apparently supported by the highest places. Do you believe that, or do you regard it
as a conspiracy theory? Based on the Deutsche Bank and the London fix I don’t believe that, but based on what we just saw from the Americans I absolutely do see that danger, because there is a quasi “Edward Snowden”,
his name is Paul Roberts and he worked at the US treasury department, and he has confirmed that the Fed, together with a number of banks, prevents gold from rising above $1400 per ounce, by continuously providing gold bids, which
put downward pressure on the price. Given the unsound loans that came to light in the Libor scandal, do you believe that in the gold market this is only the tip of the iceberg? I would say that we are only seeing a snow ball from the iceberg while a lot more is hidden at the bottom. The banks earn a hefty sum whenever they manipulate the gold price by as little as 1/10th of a US dollar upwards or downwards. You can see that with Goldman Sachs who published studies predicting gold’s decline to $950per ounce while at the same time increasing their own gold positions by 20%. That does not match up. What are some consequences for other market participants? You stated that the banks are lining their pockets, but what are some of the consequences? Yes, there is a hedge fund manager by the name of William Kaye who has said that the German gold is no longer stored in the vaults of the Fed in New York, but has already found its way to China because the Fed needed the gold in order to carry out
its market manipulations. This is as yet only a suspicion, and it may even be a conspiracy theory, but the Germans were denied an opportunity to touch or take samples of their own gold. One could hardly think up a better plot for an economic thriller. I would like to talk about investors again. Is gold a good investment for the, let’s say, small investor? One should not construct a portfolio with only gold, that much should be clear. But of course gold is a very attractive portfolio addition, whereby investors can insure the value of their portfolio against currency risks. Because if the Euro rises, the value of the gold falls, so you can participate only less than possible, therefore invest always in a currency protected fashion. How can I do that as an investor? There are certificates for doing this, there is no need for an investor to store gold in their own vault or under their pillow. For that there are very good solutions on the financial markets. Before we wrap up, what are your thoughts on how the gold price develops further from here? We can see that in China the standard of living is rising, the middle class will grow from 300 million people to 500 million by 2020, and urbanization is accelerating. This means that there will be much more demand for gold from China, as well as from India. I don’t believe that gold will break $1400/oz this year, but we will see a new gold rally in the next few years. An overview of the gold price from Bernhard Klinzing of the Frankfurter Börsenbrief. Thank you for being on the show with us tonight. If you have any questions for our studio guest, dear viewers, please visit the Makro blog where Mr. Klinzing will be available for a little while longer after the show. On our homepage you will also find additional
background material on the topic of gold.


  1. Nice work Koos. The Gold Fix will be dead soon, the statistics of price manipulation are too obvious. Dear Fat Disinformation Expert at the end of the video… PAPER GOLD is a SCAM. Buy physical bullion and take delivery in hand 1st, use fully insured non-bank segregated vaults 2nd.

  2. Is this new? It's old news. Max Keiser linked to this in his website but he himself told it a ton of times. Although sometimes he rants like a cow, he sometimes tells the truth.

  3. Politicians in league with bankers are the greatest threat to both the life, and the liberty, of the people.

    Their combined ignorance is quite literally beyond all compare.

  4. And the worst of it is, the now 'criminal' mainstream media has worked tirelessly in order to keep the people away from investing in gold in order to protect themselves.

    The mainstream media now being little more than a propaganda machine, that is both owned, and operated, by the 'international moneylenders'.

  5. Half truth propaganda in the financial war arena. The fat guy suggests buying gold certificates. WTF?!

  6. Isn't it a bit late to talk about gold fix in Germany? Rigged or not rigged, they still haven't got their gold back, probably get offer with some 'schei**e' bond instead.

  7. Barclays, Scotiabank, Deutsche Bank, HSBC and Société Générale "Sued on Claims of Fixing Price of Gold" – NY Times

  8. Of all the countries that are finally turning 'states evidence' about the metals manipulation, I guessed it would be Germany being that their gold was sold to China by the Federal Reserve.     Too bad they will never get it back…..  If I were them, I would do like China does and just keep stacking, buying on the dips.   As for settlement, just take the cash for it and buy, buy, buy………. lol   Maybe they would be better off, taking cash settlement and just buying up a few of the big mines and getting their shiny yellow metal back.  🙂

  9. This guy says to invest in gold certificates?  I guess that would mean ETF's.  NO way.    It appears that he didn't learn his lesson of 'if you can't hold it, you don't own it'  with Germany's gold being secretly carted away to the land of where most imported ivory is.    With an ETF, it often gets diluted and you cant get/touch/hold, or kiss your gold.  Also, for say, Sprott silver, I would think that one day, it would be raided with the metals going to the state in a crisis.  A bail in….

  10. I am a bit shock too from his comment to buy gold certificate..
    Some area in Asia do offer 100% gold banked piggy bank, as part of country's strategy to reroute surplus to gold and hide among its citizens, but I am not sure this "gold certificate" is the same thing as we have in Asia.

  11. China has between 12-25 thousand tons of gold while we in the US have leased all the gold and have nothing.  The countries that have placed their trust in the US will never see their gold again.

  12. Da will uns wohl jemand für dumm verkaufen – Goldzertifikate? Klar ich mache meine Altersvorsorge von Papiergold abhängig! Und die dt. Bank ist natürlich auch an überhaupt keinen Manipulationen beteiligt, das sind selbstverständlich nur die Fed und Ihre Banken, zu denen seit neusten die HSBC gehört die auch ganz plötzlich eine Amibank ist.
    Wirklich schlecht recherchierter Beitrag. 

  13. In the past, a topic like this was a taboo in western media. If people can watch a documentary like this on TVs, this might mean the elites have already loaded up enough physical gold and are ready for a collapse of the fiat money system.

  14. Kauf lieber gold und silber und in die hand haben, bitte … die schlimme sachen die schon passiert sind, banken kann man nicht vertrauen ….  if you do not hold it, you do not own it, sei nicht so dumm und kauf kein papier, mein gott .. die investor wollen nur dein geld… bald kommt die finance krise und dann sind sie froh das sie einiges versteckt haben, kauf kleinere stücke weil sie zum tauschen perfect sind ….  

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