Honda Gold Wing Tour Review at RevZilla.com

Honda Gold Wing Tour Review at RevZilla.com


[music playing] Howdy. This is Lemmy with RevZilla. And today, I’m on a 2018
Honda Gold Wing Tour. I’m down here in
the Lone Star State. Honda chose to debut
this bike down here. We came down to spent
some time with them. I’ve been riding a few of these
bikes, sampling their wears. And I have to say, the sixth
generation of the Gold Wing really underwent one
heck of an overhaul. But in order to best
understand the redesign, you really have
to understand who it is that Honda is speaking
to with this motorcycle. And they say they’re after
three different types of riders, and I tend to agree with them. I see this sort of
as a short, medium, and long-term play for them. So let’s talk about
what I think is their short-term
customer, and that’s the existing Gold Wing rider. I think it’s not too much for
Honda to assume that people who are currently on a Gold
Wing and excited about that particular model
probably wouldn’t have much trouble shelling out
for the new six-gen Gold Wing. They’re going to want to
take advantage of some of the features
and benefits that come along with this redesign. Now, the medium-term
customer that I’m thinking of and that Honda is
shooting for is what they call their returning
Gold Wing customer– someone who may have had a
Gold Wing in the past but wound up on
another motorcycle, because the Gold Wing evolved
differently than their needs necessarily required. Now, I think this is going to be
a little more elusive customer for Honda chase down, simply
because they’re likely to be a little bit more skeptical. These folks are probably
going to wait a season or two and see how the
early adopters fare, before they necessarily jump
onto one of these bikes right after they pull
their wallet out. Now, the third
group of customers, and what I consider
the long-term targets, are probably the most important
to the continued health of the Gold Wing nameplate over time. And that’s going to be folks who
haven’t yet had a touring bike. I don’t necessarily mean
had a Honda touring bike. But they may not have had
a touring bike in general. They may simply not be
socially or financially ready for a touring bike at
this point in time. But these people are
going to be important because long-model runs are
sort of the hallmark of the Gold Wing. I mean, heck, this thing went– basically since 2001– really
unchanged in any major way. So securing these people and
making sure this bike offers what those folks are going
to want in five to 10 years is actually a pretty
important play for Honda. Now, in order to figure
out whether or not Honda made the right decisions
here in the redesign, we need to get out and
actually ride this bike. Now, I’m not going
to sit here and bore you with the entire history
behind the Honda Gold Wing. It’s got a very
interesting story, but it’s not really relevant
to what we’re discussing today. However, there is one point
in the Gold Wing’s past that we’ll refer you
back to, and that’s the moment of its inception. You see, most people have either
forgotten, or didn’t even know in the first place,
that the Gold Wing wasn’t always this big
monstro, luxo, behemoth tourer. Instead, this thing was actually
conceived as a GT-style bike. It was meant to be heavy and
fast and cover lots of ground. The idea of packing
along lots of stuff, of course, and having extreme
rider comfort came later. Now, fast forward to
the previous generation, the fifth-gen Gold Wing. And we can really talk about
that bike being the ultimate in terms of opulence. It was unbelievably
comfortable for riders. And the carrying capacity
on those motorcycles is just staggering. If you can’t bring it with
you on a Gold Wing, well, you really can’t
bring it with you on almost any two-wheeled
conveyance, I would say. Now, of course, we’re looking at
the sixth generation Gold Wing. And this actually sort
of pivots and turns and looks back to the bike
that gave its GT roots. This bike underwent a
bunch of weight loss. It’s 100 pounds lighter. That’s nearly transformational
on a bike of this size. Now, that didn’t
come without a couple of strings attached, of course. And I think this might be
relatively controversial of fans of the Honda Gold Wing. In order to get that
100-pound weight loss, some of the touring
capacity went down as well. We lost 37 liters
out of the luggage. There’s another gallon
of gasoline that’s gone out of this motorcycle. Still though, 100
pounds is 100 pounds. And this bike behaves
entirely differently than its predecessor. Let’s get out there
on the tarmac. I’m going to show you
exactly what this bike can do with 100 fewer pounds. Now normally I’d take off with
something about the engine at this time of the review. However, the start of this
show is actually the front end. Honda redesigned the
front end of this, moving away from a
telescopic tubular front end to something totally
unconventional from them. And they’re calling it
their double wishbone. For those of you who
are familiar with BMW or other motorcycles, you may
know it is a Hossack front end. For those of you out
of the car world, it’s very similar to a 4-length. Now the reason this
front end is so important is because it allowed
Honda really to map out the entire bike a
little bit differently, because a Hossack-style
front end removes the braking forces from the
suspension forces, when you jam down the front
brake, the rest of the bike doesn’t slam down trying
to kiss the front tire. Because there’s now a little
bit more room between the rest of the bike and that
front tire, means that Honda was free
to move a bunch of things up in the chassis. So the entire drive
train got moved forward. The rider and passenger–
we moved forward as well. I’m actually sitting
36 millimeters forward of where I’d be
sitting on a 17-model GL 1800. And I’ll be honest, the
trick absolutely works. It works fantastically. The steering in this
bike is so light. I was making the joke, this
feels more like an ST 1800 than a GL 1800. Whether you’re putting
it down in the corner, holding it in the corner,
or pulling it back up, it’s almost like an
optical illusion. The way this bike
handles really does not belie its weight at all. Now, this front end,
too, does have me raising a couple of question marks. Now granted, some
of these things are to be longer-term
types of scenarios that we’re going to
have to figure out. The first is you can see my
tie rod bouncing away here. They’re really nifty. It’s kind of like watching an
old springer go up and down. But those tie rods are
like an automotive tie rod. They are going to
wear over time. That is the rider’s link
between the handlebars and the front end. So riders are going to have
to keep a really careful eye on those to make
sure that steering stays tight on these bikes. The other thing that
comes to mind too is that– well, alignments are
probably going to be necessary as well, just like on a car. Setting the tow at
minimum is going to have to happen
on a motorcycle that is set up this way. But for me, the
bigger question mark was Honda’s
continued use of ball bearings in the steering head. Now, granted, the steering head
is taking forces a little bit differently than it would in a
conventional telescopic front end. However, if you
guys remember, back when I reviewed our 15 Gold
Wing, we had that like in– I had a wicked
case of head shake. The front end on that
thing was just kicking around like nobody’s business. Now many riders,
myself included, thought that might
have had something to do with the head bearings. Some thought it was tires. I think there might
have been a little bit of overlap between the two. And I think that the head
bearings may have actually helped shorten the tire’s life. But regardless, considering how
many people went to aftermarket companies like
All Balls in order to get tapered bearings
for their steering heads on the older GL 1800s, it was
really surprising that Honda didn’t make that move as well. I think we need
to see how things play out with this front end. Now we can move on
to the drive train. So the 1800 CC ml underneath me
is almost completely different. Very little carries over
from the previous engine. However, it’s very odd. Honda kept all the
character with that motor, despite the fact they made
lots of changes you can read about in our written article. This thing feels
very, very similar. You looking at about 125 horse,
125 foot pounds of torque. So output’s up
just a little bit, but it has all of the
same characteristics we loved about the
earlier flat 6– honey smooth, gobs
and gobs of torque. This is the perfect engine
for this motorcycle. The really interesting part
though is behind the engine. That’s in the transmission. Gone is the five-speed manual. Now, we’re looking at a
six-speed manual, as well as the option for a
seven-speed DCT, which I’m actually on right now. I got to be honest, I’m
totally sold on this DCT. It makes more sense on a
touring bike than almost any other motorcycle. It just frees you up
to look at the scenery, to see what’s going on. It’s one less thing that you
actually have to take care of and think about. And it allows you really
just to watch what’s going on in the world around you. It’s phenomenal. If you’re considering
a new Gold Wing, even if you think you’re
a die-hard gear clicker, I would say take
a ride on the DCT. Is it worth the extra
$1,000 Honda wants? Well, that’s going to be up to
individual buyers to decide. Now moving on from
the transmission, one of the other items that
got major attention this year is in the brakes. Rear-brake rotor size
is about the same. However, the front-brake
rotors received an increase in diameter. That means the calipers
are able to exert a little more leverage on them. Those calipers are
now radially mounted. And as far as I’m
concerned, the big news here is those calipers go from a
three-pot caliper to a six-pot. All of these
braking improvements really make the Gold Wing
probably most improved as far as braking is concerned. The old Gold Wing, you really
had to plan your stops. I remember being
very underwhelmed by the brakes on that. I like the brakes on this bike. They work phenomenally,
especially in conjunction with that front and end. It’s a great setup. The only nit I have to pick
is probably Honda’s continued use of their
combined ABS system, where they combine the brakes. The front brake
actuates the rear break, which doesn’t bother me. However, the rear brake
pedal also actuates some of the front brake as well. That part I don’t really like. It kind of upsets the chassis. It’s a little disconcerting
for low-speed parking lot work. But I will say, with
the new front end, it’s not quite as
bad as it could be. All that having been said, I
prefer Honda junk that system. Now, we’ve talked plenty
about the mechanics here. We’ve raced through them. But what we really
need to get into is some of the rider
comforts and amenities that come on this bike. And that’s a little
better than I think when the bike is at a stop. So let me find a good
spot to pull over here. Now when it comes to
electronics and rider niceties, Honda gets a gold star. They’ve included all sorts
of details in this bike to really make it stand out. This is now a first-class
motorcycle once again. There’s all sorts of
cool things hidden all over this motorcycle. We finally have an
adjustable windshield that’s electrically
adjustable– no more manual adjustments on this thing. It’s nice to see
Honda update that. There’s also all sorts
of other cool things that come standard
on this bike– heated grips and also
dual-zone heated seats, so both rider and passenger
can both be comfortable. Now, it doesn’t
just stop there too. I think for me,
the cherry on top has got to be their
infotainment system. It’s part and parcel with
a touring bike nowadays. And Honda did an excellent job. It’s got a seven-inch TFT dash. It’s absolutely beautiful. Honda implemented this
really, really nicely too. It’s intuitive. It’s easy to use. In my opinion, this
is probably the best infotainment system in the
motorcycle industry right now. Now, it’s not lost
on me, of course, that Honda has made
this bike unbelievably comfortable to ride. However, made it
a little bit more difficult to spend long
hours in the saddle– again, going back to that luggage and
fuel capacity reduction here. Having said that, I think
I preferred when the Gold Wing was the king of the tours. It was absolutely the biggest. It was the best-known
tourer out there. But I also have
a confession too. For my entire riding
career, as long as the Gold Wing has been
around and previously, I never laid down a single
cent for one of these. I’ve never purchased one,
not new, and not used. So perhaps that means my opinion
is completely irrelevant. Yours, however, is not. If you’ve got something
to say about the new Gold Wing or Gold Wing Tour,
use that comment section. And if you have any more
questions about this bike, cruise on over to
Common Tread, where you can check out my first ride
review of the Gold Wing Tour. Me? Well, I got to get
inside and unpack. And I also got to suck down
a couple of Shiner Bocks. I got a long day
of riding tomorrow. I’m Lemmy. I’m outta here.

100 Comments

  1. Add some storage, hydraulic lifters, and a little more seat room and . . . . wait a second. That would be my ’93 SE. And to think I waited for this new model. Thank you, Honda for preserving my checkbook.

  2. Wish they kept the bigger tank and get more distance.  I also wish they kept the bigger storage.  I wonder as well how long the tie rods for the steering will last before they start to get play.  Other than that, I am happy with the improvements.  I wonder how they would have done if they had put in the nice electronics and power window on the older 1800 and save the r and d cost for a totally new bike.  I think they want a sport touring machine instead of a pure touring as before.  it looks like direct competition to the K1600.  Lighter, a bit more power from before, about the same baggage as the 1600 and the electric too dads everyone wants now.

  3. i bet there are a lot of upset 2017 GW owners who still ow money on their rides and have a looooong way to go for payout. now this complete change will lower the resale value of their bikes severely.

  4. That meal's enough for an entire family. 🙂 I owned a GL1100 Gold Wing Interstate in the early 90s, would be keen to get one of these.

  5. Smaller tank with no improvement in gas mileage. Small cargo capacity. No thanks. Honda had a chance to blow the competition away and they blew it.

  6. Front end of the GW is just beauty with the jewel eye headlights, remind me off the 2018 honda accord, heck even the acura nsx

  7. Younger guy here who really fits non of the 3 categories. I want the biggest, fattest Goldwing with 154 buttons in front of me. That is part of why I have always wanted one.

  8. The bike is a hundred pounds lighter then the last model but the rider here is 100 pounds heavier than the average rider, so it’s the same as before😂

  9. There are already bad reports coming in that the front shock is sh!t, just the weight of the bike alone uses up 60% of the shocks travel. Good vids on YT about this.

  10. Excellent review and thank you for your observations and comments. Question? How is it getting it up on the center stand? What fuel mileage did you get? Does it use regular or require premium fuel? How is the wind protection in general around you, not just helmet buffeting? Any heat issues with the motor? And how much fuel does it hold? What colors are available and what is your opinion of them in comparison and in your opinion of course? I think the red/black combo is only available if you get the air bag model? And just for my preference, I would get the manual shift no matter how good the DCT is.
    I looked at one and sat on one and loved it from my limited observation. I didn't have time to take the dealer up on his offer of a test ride but will be back to do so. Seating position and weight distribution felt very good. It sits lower than my ST1300 does. I am in the market for this kind of bike and will compare it to the new Yamaha and a Harley. I have tried the BMW last year but it didn't appeal too much to me riding it, other than just being fast. I also tried the Harley Road Glide and Street Glide last year, and I liked both of them. I have never been that interested in a Goldwing til now due to heftiness and looks. I love my ST1300 for riding pleasure but could use more comfort for my wife when she rides and luggage room with the trunk. These new GW bags look about the same as my ST1300 bags, but don't require the key to open them!

  11. One more question…. How good are the mirrors? Are they located in a good position? My ST1300 has good rear view mirror positioning but the new replacement for the ST being the CTX1300 has terrible placement of mirrors.

  12. Lem, great work on this video, brother. Congrats to you and the whole production team. I think you have touched on something though that is going to be a potential problem for Honda down the line with this machine and that is the front end configuration. You mention this at about the 6:48 mark.

    Seems to me the crux of the problem isn't so much with the design of the front suspension; the basic design theory seems sound. It's the execution of it that is lacking by way of using inferior components. Why Honda decided to use such soft springs and cheap shocks/dampers is beyond me, given this is supposed to be a premium touring machine that they are asking a premium price for. We will see how this plays out, but I have to say that any thoughts I had of giving this machine serious consideration are now gone. Not that I was going to run out and buy one next week, but now I am backing off completely until further notice. Everything else looks great, but this is too big to ignore. Again, we will see how this plays out…

  13. Less fuel capacity = less riding range on a tourer, less luggage capacity, less clothing, what in world was Honda thinking? They should call this the ST1800 lol..it looks like the former Honda ST1300. Previous owner of three GW’s here….disappointed to say the least.

  14. I went down to my dealer yesterday and made him a deal to trade in my 2018 BMW K1600GTL for a new 2018 Gold Wing Tour DCT. I got the BMW last July and admittedly it has incredible power and speed. For me it was a little cramped in the riding position, forcing me to fold my knees up a little too much for a top of the line touring bike. After riding a new Wing a couple of weeks ago I was basically sold on the bike and the DCT trans. The shift assist on the Beemer was good but with this DCT Honda has really raised the bar as far as I'm concerned. Changing over from a bike with 160 HP to one with 125 HP will be a good thing for me personally. The BMW runs so darn good that it was difficult for me to resist goosing that throttle just for the sheer kicks. The Gold Wing has enough power but not so much that you're going to risk a ticket every time you ride. I was very lucky that I didn't get any tickets on that BMW. I'll be taking delivery of the new Wing in less than 2 weeks and I have to admit I'm jazzed. Obviously I had to take a significant loss on the new BMW with less than 2,500 miles on the clock, but to me it's worth it and the way I see it, you only live once.

  15. I am debating between THE HARLEY ROAD KING and THE HONDA GOLD WING. Keep the compares coming. IT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL

  16. Great bike except for the seating position. I can't sit in the drivers seat because it shives me too far forward. I'll stick to the ST1300.

  17. I've been riding Harley's since 1982 but because of the sticker prices and choice of paint jobs I'm looking to switch manufacturers. So far it's down to the BMW Grand America and Gold Wing Tour. Although I started riding on a Honda I kinda made fun of Gold Wing riders however I very well be one of them soon. The BMW is lacking in some areas of creature comforts the Wing Thing gains. I agree about their brake system like trail braking with the rear brake on hairpin switchbacks which you can't do on the Wing. Thank you for a great review.

  18. There is no toe adjustment with a one wheel front end.. "Toe" is a adjustment that is all about having the 2 wheels and their relationship on how close to parallel they are from front to back. "Toe in" vs "Toe out" or Neutral measured in degrees.

  19. Was all ready to trade My ST1300 until I saw this Bike at Honda’s Daytona Bike week display. Epic fail for me on the range and storage. I really think Honda is going to have to offer a Grand Tour at some point. Why they never refreshed the ST is really a shame. BMW offers the R1200RT and the K1600GT(L). Both are similar in options with the obvious difference being the engine. The ST would have made a great entry level tourer with just a few minor upgrades/options. Plus it’s definitely easier on the wallet. With this new Gold Wing offering my ST became my favorite long distance STeed again. As for the BMW K1600GTL it just became a whole lot more competitive as well.

  20. hi guys planning on purchasing this bike this year i currently own a yamaha mt07 2017 is this goldwing going to be ok for me im kinda short 5ft 6inch???

  21. I guess I'm the 3rd group Honda was looking for. Never owned a touring bike until I bought the Gold Wing DCT in early February. I was able to ride an F6B a few years ago but this bike is so much better! It handles and takes the corners amazingly well for such a big bike. I had to learn to trust the DCT to do it''s thing. Especially when coming to a stop. I waited a long time to buy something like this. Thanks Honda. But if I feel like I want to "experience" an old and less refined motorcycle, I can still ride my 94 Magna.

  22. Great review. I agree with you regarding having the front brake linked to the rear pedal. With a bike this size, you really need the control of a rear brake only to control weight at low speeds. I also liked your comment about the front end may need monitoring for alignment issues, something I wouldn’t have considered.

  23. "We need to get out and actually ride this bike"…But first BBQ!!! LOL. That's like the start of a Harley review. hehe.
    Watched a few reviews. This is the best review out there. Good job again Lemme.
    Just inspected this new GW at our local Harley/Motorsport Dealer. Price tag aside, I would trade my Harley for this upgrade.
    The old school GW riders may not like it at first. But this was a much needed change. It's a beautiful machine.

  24. Hi! What do you think it is a better bike? Goldwing 2018 or BMW K1600 GTL? I think Honda touth the ground at 30º and BMW only at 45º. Can you confirm?Thanks

  25. I'm a new owner of a 2018 Goldwing Tour DCT (red). I've been through Harley's and Indians and this is, by far, the best bike for me. You have to understand that it's a different style of motorcycle in that Harley's and Indians are V-Twins that make a lot of noise and some people think that to have any other style is to not be a true motorcycle rider. I disagree but that's what some people think. I've graduated to the smooth class of the Goldwing. If I had to go back to vroom vroom it would be on an Indian. Great V-twin bike. But, I've graduated to the smooth power and low center-of-gravity of the Honda flat-six and I'll never go back. That, along with incredible styling and the DCT makes an unbeatable package. I've never owned a Goldwing before because it was styled too fat for my liking, but I never doubted it's smooth, powerful ride. Now, it's the Goldilocks Goldwing; it's just right. I can't wait to ride it every day.

  26. It wasn't hard for me to part with my Road King once I test drove the 2018 Goldwing. Switching between sport and tour was the game changer. All the extras on the Goldwing are just bonuses.

  27. Personally, I’ll don’t think they’ll attract anyone but current owners. Why would I buy this over a Harley-Davidson ultra? I’m not talking technical specs. The thing looks like a giant scooter. It seems like a vehicle that will get you from point a to b very comfortably but with virtually no excitement.

  28. Looks great in a non-insect environment but is a nightmare to clean both lower front and sometimes remove windscreen to clean if insects encountered. GPS is a horrible downgrade for a long distant touring bike. DCT transmission reportedly locks up at times and is a noisy downshift-er. Not sure plated aluminum cylinder liners with molybdenum coated piston skirts was a good idea (I will wait before I leap). Not a big fan of infotainment systems on a motorcycle. More attractive doesn't make the bike an upgrade 🙂

  29. Lemmy, you are the quintessential professional! Love the videos. I'm a Harley guy riding an 86 fxrs and looking to a road glide, but enjoy the videos you do on all brands! Keep up the great work and ride safely brother!

  30. I am nearing 250K cumulative miles in a Goldwing saddle; travelling coast to coast several times. After taking a demo ride on the 2018 at launch, I placed my order for a DCT Tour. I've benefited from the tweaks between a few GL generations, but the ride of the 2018 is an absolute game changer. Your review fails to touch on a couple of points: the infotainment system includes Apple Carplay, but not Android Auto. I am an Android user & hope to clarify for all that I can still use my phone (receiving & originating calls) while travelling. If Honda made available Android Auto, I'd consider the update. The only real concern I have on the infotainment is the ability of the on-board nav system to support motorcycling route planning. The system is fine for basic nav … I'm here & want to go to a destination. As a plus, the nav system integrates XM weather & traffic. But, I plan multi-day trips; touring the more scenic secondary routes. The on-board nav lacks some basic capabilities to accommodate such route planning for a motorcycle. I remain hopeful Honda will update the nav software, but I am poised to add an external GPS if necessary. However, I know there are many that are happy with the GPS. Even though there are some things I would have done differently if I had been on the design team, I love riding this bike! Everyone should at least experience a demo ride …

  31. Не смотришься на этой версии голды. На предыдущей – да. На этой – нет. В спорт зал и поменьше жирного.

  32. Pay more get less n ur wrong about the beginning Honda Copied what riders were doing that’s were Goldwing came from l👀k it up bro

  33. OH YEAH. Been a while since I saw a Lemmy review. Brilliant again!

    Since there was no mention, I assume the swing-arm and shaft-drive are unchanged… which would be a good thing.

  34. How about a head to head with a BMW K1600GT? How do these (two) touring bikes compare to Harley-Davidson and Indian touring bikes? If that’s even comparible?

  35. When you made this vidio you were really helpful when you said in the design that you moved 36 millimeters foward from before. Why didn't he just give it in inches. We are in America not Europe

  36. There selling left over 2018's for $23,000 on eBay after paying eBay $2,300 they are acutely getting $20,700. If you want one I would only offer a dealership $20,000. There are a lot of things wrong with the bike that would cost you about $7,000 to correct from it constantly bottoming out to the drone in the exhaust to the terrible navigation to the underside windshield to the seat that will give you a pain after an hour of riding

  37. What is the riding capacity from Full to empty? Realistically speaking. I want the real figures. I thought the tank was 7 gallons.

  38. why make such an amazing touring bike but reduce the luggage capacity? makes no sense. Oh and, in my own opinion, it is not very pretty. but then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. so besides those two things, it is perfect.

  39. You keep using that word (about 6:35) , I do not think it means what you think it means:

    be·lie

    [bəˈlī]

    VERB

    (of an appearance) fail to give a true notion or impression of (something); disguise or contradict.

    "his lively, alert manner belied his years"

    synonyms:

    contradict · be at odds with · call into question · give the lie to · [more]

    fail to fulfill or justify (a claim or expectation); betray.

    "the notebooks belie Darwin's later recollection"

  40. Losing storage space is not much of a big deal, you can always add attachments to hold more gear, losing a gallon of gas was stupid.

  41. I wouldn't buy a goldwing, i prefer other touring bikes like indian chieftain. But for a "sportier" approach, that bike looks amazing.

  42. Hate to tell mates that BMW have had touring bikes out on the road far longer than Honda or any other Japanese company and have been the king of touring bikes for such a long time, bigger gas tank, more room to pack stuff and so much more than Honda copied from them as friend as told me who has both, he rides the beemer and his wife the wing, they both seem pretty great to me, I ride a 09 1200rt used, still fantastic and have had wings.

  43. I don't think this is going to be for first-time touring riders. Maybe somebody with a lightweight touring bike or bought an old goldwing. Maybe someone who rides a small size BMW touring bike.

  44. I bought a 2015 GW in 2016, love it. I’ll give this iteration 3 or 4 years and take another look. Have no love for Honda’s navigation and this many changes need a shake down before I step up to that money. However at 72, I may already have my last bike.
    I did have a couple of ST1300s and they were getting to be too topheavy for me though their speed was tough to beat. Speed was always there if you needed a quick pass. The GW doesn’t have that and hasn’t since 1979.

  45. Nice! "ST 1800" really got my attention. The profile even looks a little like the old ST1100. BTW I think the specs say the linked brakes don't operate the front from the rear at less than about 10 MPH – much like the previous ST. I really liked the logic of the Honda linked brakes and believe they saved my hide at least once.

  46. they made them smaller??! That's the reason I went with goldwing because it was a ginormous bike. I stand 6ft 9, 290 plb. They should make an xl model for us bigger folks.

  47. The new Goldwings are way too small and the new generation rider will not pay $28,000 plus for a newer/smaller Goldwing.

  48. YOU asshats that have not any personal experience with car tire should shut the hell up.
    Your diet is killing you quicker. Lol

    Honda should have put that motor in the 5th gen. My wife uses up ever bit of space plus a bag on luggage rack.
    Who are they trying to sell to? If you want less carrying capacity, ninja style, faster bike then an 800 pound bike is not the place to start.
    Concours anyone?

  49. My 2017 M8 Road King shit the bed on me for the last time,,, last week. Went and bought a 2018 Gold Wing Tour 6MT. This bike is great! HD and Indian haven't a clue. The suspension is fantastic. Handles great. Brakes are stunning. Have put 1k miles on it in the last week and no faults. By that time my junk HD had already been back to the dealer twice for warranty issues and started a life of insane issues. All issues stemming from HD's horrible Victorian Engineering. We just got back from a weekend in Eureka Springs Ar. Roads we know well. Not one comfort issue at all. Harleys so called new suspension on our King was junk compared to the Wing. It has CVO or better power in sport mode with brakes to haul the big bike down in a hurry.. I would have been dragging boards on the King. Not so with the Wing. Next ride will be to the Talimena Dr. and run all over that part of the country.

  50. I could see myself riding a DCT models in the near future with my left hand having bit of issue with an on and off pain, whenever my hand muscles aren’t warmed up. Not sure why but if it gets worse, DCT will give me painless rides while enjoying one less need to do stuff. I still think GL1800 looks better but I need to check this out in real life.

  51. I would love to see Honda put out a Goldwing tour, and a Goldwing Sport GT. The tour model could still be a massive, king of the road machine. Huge cargo and fuel capacity, all the amenities, and everything we expect from a goldwing. But I think a Sport model would go over extremely well also. They could cut a ton of weight out of that bike without having to worry about pissing off long time buyers because they would still have a tour spec option. The Goldwing's more upright seating position already lends itself to being closer to the sport touring category than any other dresser touring bike right now. I think it would be perfect for someone who would love to get a little more performance and handling out of their machine but aren't ready to hop over to a proper sport touring bike. It'd be a great middle ground, and with a few styling adjustments Honda may be able to market that bike to younger riders who are a little put off by the goldwing's reputation as the perfect retirement present. Honda also doesn't currently have a good sport touring option, and I think the Africa twin is a bit aggressive for a lot of people who would also be looking at a Gold Wing.

  52. For the last couple of years, I have been thinking of switching from an Electra Glide that I've been riding how for 10 years to a Goldwing.
    I was waiting for the new one, and now that it's here, I'm still riding my Hog. Those small front opening saddlebags are just plain stupid,
    Make them bigger and top opening. Tour Pac, way too small. Gas tank, 5 gallons, really dumb! Should be about 7 gallons.

  53. Hi Lemme. A few years ago, you showed me how to do a 3 hole change on my hog, thanks! I live in the San Antonio area and have done those same roads many times . I don't , however, know what cabin rental that was . If this is a public business, I would appreciate the name/contact info . Keep up the great content!

  54. I rode one of these recently and was really surprised on how quickly it would dive into a turn. It doesn't feel like a big fat touring bike at all. All in all I was very impressed with the overall quality of this bike. I would definitely consider purchasing one.

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