How To Solder Copper Pipes With Water In It: Plumber’s Bread Trick DIY

How To Solder Copper Pipes With Water In It: Plumber’s Bread Trick DIY


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  2. Can I reuse a valve even though there is some soldering compound still inside the walls of the female end? If not, is there a way to get it off?

  3. Rookie. Prep your pipe before sticking the bread inside and always heat the bottom of the fitting first, especially if there’s water in the pipe. The solder will always catch on top but it’s the bottom where the water will be traveling is where you will have the trouble if there’s water in the pipe. Also if your water main shutoff is not completing shutting down the water you can brake the nut on the water meter as well.

  4. You can get by with a little water in the pipe as long as the steam can escape and doesn't blow out your solder joint.

  5. I tried to use that bread trick once about 30 years ago. And it was a pain in the ass. But it can work. I'm for opening other valves and creating suction with vacuums. And I would also only use rosin core solder for copper that won't stop dripping. Well hey that's what I think, and it was a good video anyway. Because there's lots of people out there who don't have a clue about anyting. And you may have surely helped someone. Peace and love, peace and love.

  6. All you had to do is use a compression fitting. Not to mention always use the tip of the BLUE flam. It's he hottest part, but it MUST be the tip of the BLUE flame. Plus, the flame should always be OPPOSITE the solder. Back to school bro!

  7. Handyman work, professional plumbers only use acetylene turbo torch, and use different torch tips depending on the size of the pipe you need to solder, thats a big flame for a 1/2" pipe. Have you ever heard of jetsweat tool?? You also left money on the table, next time replace the main water shut off first, you are not providing good service if you dont fix the valve

  8. So many rookie mistakes . Never put flux inside the pipe . Under over flame under solder over . Never use wet rag to cool pipe let it cool on it's own . Only wipe flux off with dry rag .

  9. Not sure what surprises me more, your obvious lack of expertise with plumbing, or your feeble attempts to defend all your numerous mistakes.

  10. I was a professional union pipe fitter for 25 years. I worked on installing commercial and industrial boilers and chillers. It was common for me to solder up to 4 inch copper pipe and I had my R stamp for welding on pressure vessels and steam pipe. Jeff I have forgotten more than most of the guy's who are criticizing you. Did you do it like I would ?? No but you made the repair and it doesn't leak and how you got to that point is irrelevant of your methods. Shark bites are shit. There are two types of mechanical couplings, those that leak and those that are going to. I wonder how many of these posters have used teflon tape on a flair fitting. When I see that I know some one was smacked with a stupid stick. You can use a little pipe dope to lubricate the flair so the copper doesn't bind on the brass fitting when you tighten it. All of the criticizing experts can go fuck off.

  11. A retired plumber that was in business for about 40 years told me about this bread trick a long while ago. I never had to use it, but it looks like it works as long as the water is only trickling out.

  12. Stuff some Pillsbury dough inside the pipe, gives you enough time to soldier,
    the dough will harden due to heat, but will dissolve in water in no time.

  13. The problem dripping water will come back to haunt you if the soldered joint fails . Use a jointing method without heat is best .

  14. I just realized from your presentation here that the reason I've seen so many journeyman plumbers bend the end of their solder was not only to get a better angle; but, it was also to mark how much solder to use on each joint. Thanks for that.

  15. Two things. Do as much prep work as possible before installing the bread. Also, the flame is much hotter where it changes color. High school science.

  16. I WAS CALLED TO FIX A COPPER PIPE
    LEAK UNDER A SLAB , WE HAD A HARD TIME WITH WATER , I TOLD MY
    HELPER TO ASK THE HOMEOWNER
    FOR SOME BREAD , SHE CAME WHERE
    I WAS AT AND SAID " IF YOU'RE HUNGRY I CAN MAKE YOU SOME
    SANDWICHES " !

  17. 1:52 Using vacuum to clean inside of the pipe?
    There will be hardly any effect of vacuum from a few centimeter distance.
    Also vacuum is hard to come by and with vacuum cleaner I have strong doubts.
    However a gentle pressure would be more effective to blow out any dirt in the pipe.
    5:04 "solder will be drawn to heat source"
    Said who?
    This is no longer concerns plumbing , it is physics. Any reference to this statement.?
    The correct terminology should be "capillary action" as commonly used but I would suggest surface tension.
    Liquids are attracted to the solid surface and adhere with a stronger bond than the inter bond among the liquid molecules.
    Hence as soon as soldering metal melts and becomes liquid it is immediately attracted by the surface of copper pipe nearby. That is due to surface tension.
    And the attention the double surface of concentric copper pipe one inside the other creating a very fine gap causes capillary action and stronger surface tension force to draw/attract/pull the liquid solder.
    Where does the heat comes into play?
    That goes beyond plumbing and takes us into physics.
    Firstly you need a minimum base amount of heat to keep solder metal in liquid state while cooling off by the ambient temperature.
    Secondly you can repeat the same experiment at different temperatures (Not heat) to observe and obtain data how surface tension/capillary action behaves under different temperatures.
    Under ambient temperatures this information maybe of no use to plumbers but in electronic industry or in space precision to manipulate the matter maybe everything.

  18. Who's the old plumber ??
    Bcuz it ain't this dude with the torch that don't know heat rises.
    He shouldn't be telling nobody nothing
    Green as a bean

  19. Um, why in the hell did you clean and flux the inside of the pipe? You don't solder inside the pipe, so it's not needed. Ridiculous waste of time. And a quick tip – play your torch on one side of the joint and feed the solder into the other side. The heat will draw the solder all the way around the joint for you. I did plumbing for 42 years and I never once saw anyone put flux on the inside of a male part of any joint.

  20. omg….idea is good….but.you should n o t to instruct anybody how to do it. sorry, you have no skill and common sense!!!!. plus, your small piece of bread would not stop this huge leak for the time of your lenghty demonstration! shame on you.

  21. So you are a diy'er.
    Not a plumber. That makes perfect sense.
    I understand the purpose of the video.
    But there are 10 different ways you. Could have performed the job easier and still showed diy'ers the easy cost effective solution.
    So sorry if that hit home to you.
    But step you game up.

  22. Nice tip however I would probably do the cleanup work before I put the bread in because the bread won't hold water back for a long time

  23. I had the same problem with a main shut off gate valve, change to a ball valve and it will stop all water flow. I like the all plastic ones since FL water is corrosive and full of calcium deposits, metal just won't last long term. I've used the bread trick for CPVC also but if you use the blue wet location glue a little moisture won't be a problem. Not sure why you brushed and fluxed the inside of the pipe but you should have done the inside of the coupler right? I never knew about the lenght of solder. I always just fed it enough to fill to the edge of the outside fitting but I'm not a pro, just a DIYer.
    BTW, Def Leppard sucks.

  24. if you shut the main water off and it still trickles out, then opening the hot and cold valves of the sinks or tubs below the line your repairing should do the trick. it worked for me.

  25. The way I was taught is to take bread, roll into a ball, not hard, big enough to fill the leaking pipe, it clogs the water temporarily so you can do the solder. When finished, turn the water on and the bread will flush out.

  26. Why do you clean the inside of the copper pipe when the solder goes on the outside of the pipe? Please explain I’ve seen this so much and don’t know why people do it

  27. Good Job Jeff, will have to try it out on a job, maybe UK, bread is different to American bread, we get EU Crap in the UK, Can't wait to LEAVE the CORRUPT EU

  28. compressed air to blow back water to another open valve works good too
    also if you made up the nipple and coupling first you don't need to have the
    water stopped for so long

  29. My 16 year old cousin can solder better than that! Heat from bottom and reduce the flame Mr. Also for many who aren’t experienced during recommend a 3/4 shark bite ball valve to stop that leak 😬

  30. Are you serious putting that on youtube, I watch it maybe to learn some thing, but I laughed and moved my head back and forth in trying to why you put some on that is wrong

  31. After your 5 attempts because of leaks all you need to do is go to the water meter and break the Union on the house side to alleviate the water. You need a smaller torch head dude why don’t you carry a spray bottle to cool the pipe and solder flux. Rookies

  32. I'm confused, why would you clean the inside of the pipe? I assumed you must be using a male fitting or something

  33. Where did you get that fire blanket…..i somehow soldered witha. Dripping pipe and it sealed, don't ask me how because im no plumber but it worked.

  34. I just finished plumbing in a pressure tank for our well. I had 4 joints spraying water afterwards. I realized I had applied the flux using my finger do you think the oils from my finger in the flux cause that failure

  35. My friend i would say to put the bread back in the kitchen the kids are hungry!
    for a problem such as this you could

    a) get your hands on a mechanical stopper attached to a rod
    the product is called jet sweat. its a few inches long and will expand outwardly so you can solder
    and dont worry about contaminating copper fittings with oil from your hands, wouldnt happen

    B) disconnect the union nut on the house side of the meter so that any water leaking past the valve will drain out of the system at the point of entry to your house

    C) Milwaukee pro press

  36. Fucken dumbass, your a rookie. That's a great way to clog lines n fixtures. Try a jet sweat next time 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  37. I think you could have wire-brushed the outside of the pipe before sticking the bread in.
    Would have given you another 30 seconds or so.

  38. What also works is breaking loose the water mater and let it drain outside..then use a shop vac to remove any remaining water in the line..using a real torch also helps..cookin torches are not the proper way to solder..

  39. I’ve used that so called bread trick on a leak like this a few times and all it did was make a mess. Can you braze with copper rods instead ? would that work better than solder?

  40. Why did u sand the inside of the pipe? Lol I've never done that or seen anybody do that. But that bread trick works like a charm! 🔥 good shit

  41. These kinds of videos are great for plumbing repair businesses. You did just about everything wrong. Why would you clean the inside of the pipe? Fix the leak first, then you wouldn't have to shove bread up the pipe!

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