Russian jet to ship 20 tons of gold out of Venezuela


TRISH: SPECULATION THAT THE SUDDEN APPEARANCE OF A RUSSIAN PLANE IN AN AIRPORT IN CARACAS IS THERE TO TRANSFER VENEZUELAN GOLD FROM THE COUNTRY’S CENTRAL BANK FOR DICTATOR NICOLAS MADURO. WHAT IS IT DOING THERE? JOINING ME, RUSSIAN FINANCIER — TELL ME HOW TO SAY YOUR LAST NAME. I SPEAK SPANISH BUT NOT RUSSIAN.>>AN AMERICAN APPROACH TO RUSSIAN REALITY. TRISH: HOW DO YOU SAY IT? WHY IS THAT PLANE THERE?>>IT’S MORE A POLITICAL GESTURE TO SHOW COMMITMENT AND IMPOSE A LINE IN THIS COUNTRY. AND ALL IN ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $17 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS. IT’S A HEDGE AGAINST WHAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THE NEAR FUTURE. TRISH: THEY WANT TO GET THE GOLD OUT NOW WHILE THEY STILL CAN?>>IN A WAY. BUT I BELIEVE IT’S MORE OF A POLITICAL GESTURE AND A FINANCIAL MOVE. TRISH: BUT IT IS TO TAKE GOLD BACK TO RUSSIA?>>THAT’S WHAT WE SEE IN MEDIA, BOTH IN WESTERN AND RUSSIAN MEDIA. BUT NOTHING OFFICIALLY CAME OUT OF THE KREMLIN.>>YOU ARE SAYING IT’S A POLITICAL GESTURE AS WELL. MAYBE THEY WANT TO COVER SOME OF THE LOSSES IF THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AND MADURO IS NOT SUCCESSFUL. WHY DO THE RUGS WANT MADURO THERE AND NOT JUAN GUAIDO?>>TO BE HONEST, RUSSIA SEES THIS ALTERCATION AS A U.S.-INSPIRED POLITICAL CHANGE OR COUP. TRISH: REALLY? THAT’S WHAT THEY THINK? THAT’S AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE. YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MARCHING IN THE STREETS. WHY WOULD THE RUSSIANS THINK THAT’S OKAY? THAT’S NOT WHAT WE STAND FOR. THAT’S NOT WHAT ANYBODY SHOULD WANT.>>YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY RIGHT AND WE UNDERSTAND THE REALITIES ON THE GROUND. BUT THE SOCIETY IS DIVIDE AND THERE ARE CLEAR SIGNS OF SOME KIND OF COORDINATION BETWEEN THE POSITION AND THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IT’S OKAY WITH ONE EXCEPTION. THE RUSSIAN VIEW WITH A SIMILAR STRATEGIC VISION IS DENIED. SO THE U.S. CONSIDERS THIS PART OF THE WORLD TO BE ITS BACKYARD AND ACCORDING TO ITS STRATEGIC NATIONAL INTEREST. RUSSIA SEES THIS AS A DENIAL OF CHINA, RUSSIA AND OTHER EMERGING GREAT POWERS WHICH IS TO SEIZE THEIR PRIME STRATEGIC INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES. I THINK THAT’S A DISSUASION. TRISH: PAYBACK. WE ARE ACTIVE OVER THERE AND THEY WANT TO BE ACTIVE IN OUR HEMISPHERE BECAUSE WE ARE ACTIVE OVER THERE?>>THERE IS AN ELEMENT HERE WHICH IS — IN THE WAIVE RESTRUCTURING. THE SYSTEM WHERE THE U.S. IS JUST ONE OF THE DECISION MAKERS. ONE OF THE MAIN PLAYERS. TRISH: BUT WE CARE ABOUT VENEZUELA AND WE CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE. THERE IS THE REALITY OF OIL THERE. IT IS THE REALITY OF STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT PEOPLE. WE WANT OUR HEMISPHERE TO BE FILLED WITH OUR FRIENDS. DO YOU THINK THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN AND COMPANY REALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH WE CARE AND THAT HE RUNS THE RISK OF CREATING SOME KIND OF PROXY WAR IN LATIN AMERICA IF HE DOESN’T BUTT OUT?>>MOSCOW NEEDS SOME BARGAINING CHIPS WITH THE UNITED STATES. AND UKRAINE, AND AFGHANISTAN. SO IF THE SPACE OF THE FORMER

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