What will it take to cause silver prices to rise again?

What will it take to cause silver prices to rise again?


Welcome to illuminati silver, we tell you
the truth about silver. Today is Sunday 19th August 2018 and we are
asking the question what will it take to cause silver prices to rise again?
On Tuesday 24th April 2018 Reuters reported the following comment from CPM Group…..
“The price of silver will depend heavily on trends in investment demand in 2018, but
could get a boost from international political and economic risk purchases.”
Now just to remind you who CPM Group are – They are based in New York is a commodities research,
consulting, financial advisory and commodities management firm providing independent research,
analysis and advisory services. In other words, this organisation essentially
supplies data to the Industry at a cost e.g. they charge $160 for a copy, of their own
Annual Silver Survey which incidentally quotes: “The enormous range of economic, financial
and political issues facing the world and individual investors seems more likely to
lead to a rekindling of silver demand from investors.’
So let’s take a reality check here for a moment. Average Silver prices declined 0.5%
in 2017 and so far, this year they are down 14% or $2.40 an ounce as investors pursue
higher-yielding opportunities, including global equities.
As we have quoted in other videos, Silver investment demand dropped 52% in 2017 to 50.2
million ounces. CPM Group expects 43.9 million ounces in investment during 2018, the lowest
since 2006 when investors added just 30.6 million ounces to holdings.
Their Report also quotes: “On various occasions over the past few years, silver prices have
risen only to fall back. This sort of price pattern often turns investors away, putting
them in a cautionary, wait and see frame of mind. Though geopolitical issues, including
looming U.S.-Russia and U.S.-China tensions may stimulate investor safe-haven interest,
they may not buy aggressively.” “While there is a lot of silver available
in the world, compared to gold, and unlike gold silver tends to be liquidated from inventories
more readily, there has been a decline in mine supply since 2016 which is expected to
continue over the next decade. Declining mine supply and rising fabrication demand are expected
to tighten the market, this could lead to an increase in prices.”
But despite this latter comment they admit that whilst solar panel demand will rise this
year probably by around 1.2% this in itself will not be sufficient to affect prices.
Well This sounds slightly positive does it not but perhaps a little pedestrian?
So what is the catalyst that is likely to push up silver prices in the very near future?
Now we ask you to bear with us on this video. We have listeners who are new to silver purchasing,
stacking or investing and we have listeners who have been involved for many years and
trade daily in this market. But to keep this video simple and frankly easy to digest we
confine future silver price growth to essentially be determined by 3 factors:
1. The continuing deficit in supply vs demand 2. Increase in Industrial usage
3. Increase in purchases for investment or speculative purposes.
Let’s deal with each of these briefly in turn:
1. The continuing deficit in physical supply vs demand.
Since 2011 the actual physical deficit (that which has been mined and recycled vs that
which has been demanded by investors and industry) amounts to a deficit of approximately 281
million ounces or an average of 40 million ounces per annum. Now if we add in Inventory
Build and Net Investment build, this deficit increases to a deficit of 655 million ounces
or 93 million ounces per annum. Now if we assume there is approximately 2 Billion Ounces
of above ground silver to mop up these deficits – then there is sufficient for the next
26 – 50 years not allowing for new discoveries or a decline of existing ones. Just hold on
to that thought. 2. Increase in Industrial usage. Well since
2011 Industrial demand has moved from between 50% – 60% of total demand and 55% to 61% of
total supply. However, we have seen the actual demand figures decrease from 661 million ounces
in 2011 to 599 million oz in 2017 which was up a little compared with the previous 3 years
admittedly. So where is this Industrial demand going to come from? Just hold on to that thought.
3. Increase demand for Investment or speculative purposes. Well in terms of physical coin and
bar demand since 2011 we have seen demand fall from 212 million ounces in 2011 to just
151 million ounces in 2017. So just hold on to that thought for a moment.
So despite what CPM Group stated, we seem to have a situation that frankly does not
look very bright on the surface – we have enough silver above ground to last anywhere
from 26 – 50 years subject to current supply and demand levels; We have industrial usage
falling in real terms and which may be even further affected if we enter into tariff territory
and trade wars; and we have a general public and investment community just not interested
in buying silver for monetary or investment purposes and yet we see all over YouTube pumpers
cry ‘Silver prices are going to the moon.’ The question we all must ask ourselves is
How? Well before we answer that we shall depress
you just a little further. We also have a rising dollar value and as silver is Internationally
priced in dollars, this too has a downward effect on price.
So before you run off and throw yourself into the next passing car or jump off that bridge
nearby, we are going to address the options as to how prices are going to rise? But first
let’s listen to what other people suggest. 1. We hear some people cry – get rid of
the manipulation and the price will sky rocket. Well why would it? Physical supply and demand
is pretty much on parity or is mopped up by above ground stocks, and most companies have
All In Sustaining Costs either at or below current price levels, so why is there a need
to jack up prices? In fact, any price increase is likely to result in miners developing more
seams or perhaps those seams which are currently uneconomic, thereby increasing supply and
thus having a downward pressure on prices again.
2. Well the world’s economy is growing and Industrial usage will cause prices to rise.
Really? Well they haven’t over the past 7 years and frankly we have already mentioned
that the increase in solar panel demand is very unlikely to influence price. Yes there
are advances in medicine and refrigerator purchases from emerging and far eastern Markets
such as China. However we are already witnessing that world trade is in flux because of the
imposition of tariffs and the threat of more and emerging markets are suffering major currency
crisis so they are unlikely to increase demand any time soon.
3. OK option 3 investors will invest. Why should they? They have equity markets which
are still rip roaring ahead, we have interest rates slowly going up so bonds or interest
bearing investments will become more attractive and there is also the flavours of the year
such as cryptocurrencies in which to make a serious speculative buck, especially as
their prices have fallen back recently. So what is the answer? Well it depends on
your time frame. If you are looking over the next 20 years, then frankly you are relying
on gradual stock depletion, depletion of above ground stocks and the consequent rise in silver
prices. So, in our view, if you are aged between 20 -50 and can hold on around 20 years, regular
accumulation could prove a most attractive pension opportunity, providing of course you
will have a large enough safe to keep it in. However, short term there is only 1 remedy
made up of 2 parts namely; Fear and Panic. We need something that will suck the monies
out of the equity markets and into a safe haven investment such as gold and silver.
But not only that, whatever happens those monies must not go into the US dollar, as
we have seen recently seen with the Turkish Crisis but into gold and silver. Well here
are some of the remedies we have come up with: 1. A serious Military conflict involving the
United States and the more serious the better. 2. A major Banking or Financial Services default
such as witnessed in 2008 but on a much larger scale where the contagion spreads throughout
the whole Industrialised world. 3. A crisis in the support of the US dollar
with could be geopolitical, commercial as above or possibly domestic political – for
example the uncertainty that would be caused say if President Trump was impeached – though
this would only have a short-term effect. 4. Our proverbial black swan, something none
of us have thought of. The bottom line is something that will panic
the traders and investors causing both the physical demand for gold and silver to rise
but also, and the conspiracy theorists or market manipulation accusers will love this,
also, cause the speculators on Wall St and the Comex to paper trade silver – yes paper
trade it via calls and call options, causing its price to rise dramatically.
Now will these things happen? They might, but can you see why the gold and silver pumpers
are constantly spreading the fear of an imminent market collapse, dollar collapse or impending
war – as essentially it is one of these factors during the next few years or so that
will cause silver prices to rise well above what normal trading conditions will allow.
This is why we have continually reinforced our message for those who purchase silver
for capital appreciation, do so with the longer term in mind. If any of the events occur as
mentioned above, and prices sharply rise, then that’s an economic bonus, and if they
do not then you will have preserved your wealth while the fiat currency will have depleted
over those years. We hope you have found this video food for
thought. Of course you can disagree with us – by all means please share your views on
what you believe it will take to turn the silver market around.
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100 Comments

  1. Collapse of the paper market. Otherwise I would agree with your last video. More of the same unless a systemic failure. Your 4 scenarios are not only possible but will be the same event

  2. We have all been waiting for this one. Thank you!
    'Get rich quick' thinking is for the cryptos. Gold & Silver are for people who understand what money really is. Money is not supposed to skyrocket. It is supposed to store wealth and preserve purchasing power.

  3. Your comments are all based on some charts you have but they just like the news are altered. I agree there are a lot of pumpers but your arguments in this video just don’t add up. Also it comes to mind….. if you don’t think there will be a rise in the silver prices to the true value then why do you have a silver YouTube channel? Your last 2 videos it shows you have lost your way. I will unsubscribe now.

  4. While continuing my small monthly silver purchases, if solar panel demand is only increasing by 1.2%, I think I need to increase my oil and gas investments.

  5. This gentleman seems not even consider the supply destruction. Does he assume that the silver keeps coming out of ground auto-magically? By the current price, almost no silver miner makes money, at least not in net profit. I checked their financials. They have been in the red since 2013. Silver miners are mining on Bay Street or Wall Street. They raise money to subsidise their operation losses. Even worse, there in no real exploration. Where is the future reserve coming from? It is brutal out there. By listening to Rick Rule, you know the financiers play these miners like cat plays the rat. They have total upper hand. How long can this last as inflation eats into their non-existent profit and makes them deeper into the hell. They have to give up, don't they. Why not convert to marijuana growers? I doubt the the patience of the market which is proven by early 2016 when gold/XAU ratio was 28. Without the massive price rise in 2016-2017, the miners would have been in a coma with their share price practically zero. I am betting on price rise just because the US and the rest of the world have printed so much money, the inflation is on its way. Miners are and will continue suffering. So I have mostly bars, ETFs and very few miners. I hope them dead with no mercy. They deserve it. When I started to invest in silver at $6, I knew if the price did not rise, the miners could not survive and there is not enough above ground silver to support the mass extinction of the miners and the price will rise, and it did. This will happen again. SO STAY AWAY FROM MINERS. STAY WITH THE PHYSICAL. HAVE 50/50 in gold and silver.

  6. I would like to add another point that is US debt is growing tremendously, the creditor like Chine, Russia, India and other country demand USA to pack US dollar to Gold and US dollar will not be world reserve currency. US dollar will be domestic dollar that will have hyperinflation effect in USA. New domestic dollar will have 30% depreciation in first round, then second round will have 30% depreciation again, total up will be approximately 50% depreciation. If USA still having deficit spending, the gold reserve will be redempt and USA will default and bankrupt!

  7. Under gold backing US dollar and hyperinflation time, gold and silver price will shoot to the moon, just like venuzulia, argendina. Gold and silver will maintain the purchasing power against currency. During currency crisis, all fiat paper will eventually go back to its intrinsic value that is Zero. From time to time, history of finance prove it, all fiat currency will go to its intrinsic value, that is Zero. When all settled down, gold and silver prices will be saturated. It will be the best time to go to property and housing market. You can make a lot of money on the way!

  8. An excellent assessment, IS. Thank you! I couldn't help but chuckle at the girdle advertisement that preceded you video! LOL!

  9. Those are three very possible reasons for a huge increase. Almost guaranteed one of them. Besides I am planning on my daughters benefiting that’s how long I’m going

  10. SOBERING…………most stackers prefer a perpetual state of intoxication…. & pumpers know exactly what to say to induce it. Thanks for keeping our heads clear I.S.

  11. the problem with those analysis is they are based purely on numbers and data, which is fine but and fortunatly it's mentionned for once, what moves Gold and Silver is a scare..who can truly believe all will stay as it it for "26 to 50 years" there will be crisis between now and 26 years from, that a certainty

  12. Gold / Silver has no value. It's only value is what someone is willing to give you for it. As is stated in the video, that value depends on outside influences not necessarily inherent to the metal. So we can make our best reasoned estimate of factors affecting add a bit of the unpredictable into the mix and stir. TIME will decide the outcome. The only question is do you have the time to wait it out.

  13. I never planned on selling any PMs, but took losses if I did. If times are good I add, if they are bad I would take a loan before selling any forever money again, using it as collateral if need be. The price will go up at some point to get all the silver they can from people who have been waiting for their first chance to break even, and make more money on the fools buying on the way up and naked shorting on the way down. Since banks and gooberment have been working together since the Venetian banks playing the ratios and shaving coins, the guns will win no matter what, but the days of traditional spoke and hub banking are over with blockchain technology, and a London law from long ago makes using anything but gooberment blessed money an act of treason, almost all existing decentralized coins will die. I'd use any gains made to own physical PMs and while not advising anyone to break any law, shit happens!
    If you are not in it to build generational wealth, you should only own a little as insurance, I only buy small amounts that add up over time, so price is not an issue, and I never planned on spending it, unless it turns to money again and I'm retired. The one time I made a large buy, as luck would have it all kinds of bad luck forced me to sell, because I had debt already, now is a different story and strategy.

  14. You assumption on the amount of above ground silver is the million dollar question, and also the assumption that those in possesion will reliquish it in exchange for Fiat.

  15. Thank you for the Post I did find it useful not what I wanted to hear as far as prices but it all makes sense and I agree with what it would take for silver prices to really rise but that's what they keep pumping all over YouTube economic collapse blah blah blah

  16. "A military conflict with America….the big the better". Now that is evil, to wish the suffering of untold humans so that one can prosper finacially

  17. Wouldn't "Are silver prices going to rise or fall?" be a better, more useful question, than "What will it take to cause silver prices to rise again?"

    Why try to create some kind of heroic plan for arousing demand for Silver, rather than simply observing the dynamics influencing supply and demand for silver, and trading silver (buying or selling) appropriately..?

    You can accumulate wealth by trading silver, buying low and selling high, or selling high and buying low, regardless of whether the price is going up or down, and regardless of whether you have holding of silver or not.

    So why the question: "What will it take to cause silver prices to rise again" ..?

  18. Just asking a question if anyone can help is it a good idea to follow JP Morgan with stacking silver I think he's up to something but I have already been stuck silver for a long time just think it's interesting that's all

  19. One of your best videos by far… well thought out with FACT's! I stack for the long term i just hope i shall see a profit in the next 20ish years when i sell for retirement ! I only have a small stack tho !

  20. Glad I found this channel – some truth and honesty in silver and gold has been desired for some time. This video is what I've been waiting for – addressing reality in the short term and discussing the long term too. Makes me feel better as I've wanted to hear more regarding the longer time frame – 15 to 20 years in my case. I'll keep listening.

  21. But… but… but… someone on TV promised that silver was headed for $2,000 an ounce. Or more! Act now! Don't wait! While supplies last! Once in a lifetime opportunity! Get in before it's too late! Don't postpone this golden opportunity to protect your future! Industrial demand is about to skyrocket! LOL

  22. Well, silver will not go up anytime soon, soon being next 9 months. It's simple, the manipulation continues. The bs gold/silver paper notes was designed to keep prices low. When recession ensues, they make sure the keep precious metals low, so people feel they have no where to move their bank/stock/mutual fund money to fool people. Then it will increase, but in the meantime, sit back and pickup cheaper priced silver next year. jp morgan isn't buying up silver for no reason, other than to manipulate until they will reap the benefit of an increase in price. Stay tuned..

  23. Well that comment certainly contributed to the debate in a constructive manner – thank you for being so concise 😆

  24. A very well done video and great food for thought! Now what do YOU recommend we invest in if not gold and silver? Stocks? Real estate? Crypto? Would love to have Illuminati's perspective on what you consider to be a balanced portfolio? What percentage should we have in precious metals? 10% 25% 50%?

  25. Everyone I listen to who recommends silver recommends it for those very reasons-these things(war / financial crisis)are hardly unlikely now are they?

  26. Hold on to this number, 2.5 B oz of above ground reserves divided by the world population of 6B. Now you underestimated the potential retail investment demand that can be sparked by a single tweet from Trump.

    Keep the price down buddy, I too like cheap silver, but don’t think that the banks can keep the day that is coming, The great run on the banks is going to happen.

  27. ???  PM's, especially Ag are extremely undervalued.  It's a no-brainer… buy and hold.  Stocks, bonds and real estate are in massive bubbles.  This channel constantly berates PM advocates… he says they are pumpers and are scamming people when they tell people to buy, yet this guy is telling you to buy and hold.  These vids make no sense whatsoever.  What is the agenda?

  28. CPM Groups' Jeff Christian pretty much told the world his take on Silver & Gold a few months ago… new nominal price highs by years 2022 – 2024 due to another financial crisis around the corner. Just youtube search: "Gold Prices to Rise Sharply Over the Next Six Years, Says Jeff Christian". It's outsized physical PM investment demand that will likely be the next major price driver as other asset classes begin to falter and lose value vs bullion.

  29. Fake News! US fiat going downhill as soon as US fixes the trade imbalances as they squeeze everyone. Eventually USD needs to be lower to increase exports.

  30. what the heck? the pound sterling has moved up 70 pips or so and silver has not budged one iote.
    gold has moved up a bit and still silver has not budged. asia has just came on line, and still siver is not moving… isn't that odd? the bankers are at jackson hole and should should make a statement tomorrow. is silver trailing the market?

  31. If JPM is hording so much silver, you'd better have your safe loaded into the back of your running pick-up today before they flood the market with it. Or will we still be holding on when the other guy is paving his driveway with it because it's half the price of cement?? This is what scares me. It's no secret that they are buying it up but how are you going to time that market and sell your "precioussssss" when they're dropping helicopter ingots? And all these celebrity commercials on tv pumping pumping and demand is still down? The whole effing desert is smeared with solar panels and demand is down? Are we chasing the shiny(silver) object here? I'm just thinking out loud…

  32. The silver producers should just get together and say we are not making one more ounce of silver unless it’s for 50.00 an ounce. And from now on silver will NEVER go below 50.00 an ounce.

  33. I don't see silver going anywhere for 5 to 10 years I'm still stacking little by little as a hobby long as it dow keeps heading to 30,000 silvering not going to go over 20

  34. 2nd time I listen to this crap.
    It will need a 3rd time to come up with a reaction.
    But I will have to start taking notes.
    Maybe… a 4th time before I react.

  35. the pound moved up 150 pips and silver went nowhere. you would think $15.00 at least. lol. so the pound is poised to move lower to $1275.00
    lets see if it can drag silver lower with it. $14.50 at least? i expect to see $14.25

  36. I been stacking since 2011 & needless to say, I wish I had never heard of silver. Not a single drop of profit & nonstop losses . I feel spo sick. Never listen to all those idiotic self prefessed silver gurus out there. All bloody scammers

  37. This is the only channel that truly tells us the truth, unlike that idiotic Chris 'truth never told' Duane and others like him

  38. so the pound dropped a 100 pips. i miss the days when it would drop 300 pips
    overnight then rise 250 pips in the morning. i guess those days are over. lol a tleast we got silver to move lower to $14.50. i expect the pound to drop back to $1.2750 that should bring silver back to test the double bottom. hopefully we will see $14.25 with any luck by tomorrow.

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  40. I hold no gold or silver. I wish i still did. But I've invested in food, water and alternate power sources. I've been studying silver for a long time. I did buy some but sold it at a loss to buy more tools to become self sufficient. The way I see it, silver requires a third party to make gains. Being self sufficient means you only rely on yourself to house, feed and keep your family warm.

  41. I don’t know what it will take but I hope it doesn’t happen tomorrow. I’m still the process a buying so the price can keep going down down down every time it goes down is a deeper discount for me.

  42. Finally the truth without the hype. Question..Is there a possibility of a BRICS nation (or other nations) going on a gold standard? If so, how may that affect the US$ and other fiat currencies? I understand Libya and Iraq made a move to back their currencies with gold (to their dire consequence ).

  43. My theory: If the dollar keeps rising (which is good) due to America First policy, silverprices go down, mining companies go broke and less silver surfaces. The amount that is above ground, will not be sold by stackers at dump prices. What's left will be on a firesale, depleting even more the amount of silver above ground until it breaks. Then demand will rise again and so will prices.

  44. The stock market has been bullish for a long time. I think that we are due for another economic recession in the next one to two years on par with the 2008 crisis. I think that such an economic recession would cause the price of precious metals to increase significantly.

  45. Hi, I liked your video. Your explanation is a good one, its just that it misses a few things. If your looking for truth the value of silver is of course a lot higher than stated, probably around 1000 dollars. But the thing is, is that silver and US dollars are not even in the same class or category.

    It takes the average working man a long time to accumulate even just a small handful of silver, he has to really sacrifice; he has to ride his bike 24 miles a day, because he can't,afford car insurance, eat one meal a day at golden corral, because he doesn't even have the time to cook; he has to even plan for a ephemeral stunt of planned homelessness, live in a damn storage unit or in a friends driveway. Then after he picks up a few rounds he has to hold them for freaking years while the fucking big wigs take their sweet time covering their naked shorts. So after all that plus a,whole lot more and putting up with your bosses shit in a go nowhere job…..
    Do you think the average guy is going,to sell his silver for,less than the amount of shit he had to go through to hold it. Awe, hexx no, he won't sell for less than 600 or 700 dollars an ounce and that is at the current inflation numbers.

    So the truth is silver and gold is worth way more to the average guy than the fucking banks and shit ass governments. The numbskull people are waiting for an authority figure, such as,the stock market price to show a rise in silver price. They are waiting for something that will never happen so long as the banks manage the currency

  46. Excellent summary and analysis. I have more questions than answers, and maybe one scenario or hypothesis.
    1) The above ground stock is key. Is it as simple as depleting it? The assumption is that is available and easily acquired. Is this true? Is it truly 2 billion? If not as liquid as assumed, maybe 5-10 yrs instead of longer.
    2) unanticipated inflation occurring sooner and higher than thought (let’s say 8-10%). That’s one scenario. Silver can rise along with a higher dollar in this scenario, then continue rising while the dollar eventually falls. Timeframe? Could be shorter than 10 yrs, maybe 3-5??
    3) China revealing their gold and silver stocks and monetary strategy pegging the yuan to gold or the SDR. Maybe less than 10 yrs.
    4) contagion from Argentina, Turkey, Greece, Italy , Venezuela, etc worse than anticipated due to US and Euro tightening. Dollar higher at first but eventually QE and lower rates renew and gold and silver resume higher. 5 yrs timeframe? Again just saying it’s less than put forth.
    5) low probability but actual devaluing of the dollar by resetting its value to gold (silver) in order to inflate our way out of debt. This is an alternate method to just letting potential hyper inflation do the same, but in an active way.
    6) investment in silver rising due to laws enacted in US to eliminate not only sales tax but also capital gains, driven by news media and a rise in prices from any of the above.
    7) Russia or another country introducing silver as currency.
    8) 70% of silver is a byproduct of other mining. Using copper or gold mining as an example, silver production could decrease faster than expected due to these metals anticipated declining production . 5 -7 yr timeframe.
    Obviously the impacts of these vary on price. A combination of events would most likely be needed for significant effect on prices.

  47. America will rise, the biggest transfer of stolen wealth shall return to the people. Gold and silver will increase soon due to the collapse of the fraudulent federal reserve world system. Amen

  48. This person has a real problem. Got his numbers all screwed up. This is one of those videos that presents the opposite to the truth, as truth. We will see what happens.

  49. thank you for this video. i was about to dump 5k into physically silver. I think i’ll dump 10k. i needed to hear this sensible advice. thanks 🙏🏼

  50. About aboveground stocks you are making an assumption that is when the price is high enough rich people will go to their garage and melt down their cuttlery to sell it this is not true because a lot of silverware has also got a value as art

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